Join us for a conversation between an Israeli supporter and a Palestinian advocate triggered by a LinkedIn post, as we delve into the foundations of the misleading Palestinian narrative.
Original post:
Yoni Asher has a powerful message for the world:"If you put in front of me the child of the man who kidnapped my daughters I will hug him. I will not harm him in any way." Our Love is greater than your Rage
Palestinian comment #1
Loving the killer of one family member of yours is not as easy as loving the killer of 5-30 family members. Both acts are deplorable, but one is more severe than the other.
Israeli comment #1
Why aren’t you resisting Hamas?
Palestinian comment #2
I am confident to say I have done that in numerous other posts. Because Hamas, regardless of whatever they do, will be supported by oppressed people because no one else is standing up for them. You do not see Israel stationing troops with Jordan and Egypt. What we are seeing is Genocide. People are being wiped out. The arab countries are asleep. Israel, a democracy, is committing war crimes and killing plenty of Gazans for a few Hamas militants. Do you condemn the indiscriminate bombing on civilians in Gaza since the first major operation in 2009? Disclaimer: analysis is not justification.
Israeli comment #2
"Because Hamas, regardless of whatever they do, will be supported by oppressed people because no one else is standing up for them".
You, in your own words, admit to the truth - Gazans are supporting Hamas. As such, they are the Israeli people's enemies, and share Hamas fate. Rooting for them, like you are doing, is taking sides with the Enemy.
Going back to my original question - You don't care about children lives in Gaza. You are abandoning them on the front line, using them as human shield, and take no responsibility for your actions when they die. Classic Fake Palestinian rhetoric move - "Above all, take no responsibility". May Allah have mercy on your soul
Palestinian comment #3
Let us be reasonable. Imagine you have no one that 'defends' you besides someone like the Haganah. Will you not feel that they are the only ones avenging and discouraging the ruthless killing of your people? I'm not saying it's right, I'm asking you what you would do. Eventually, people will turn to extremism when the world and fellow Arabs abandon them. Again, I do not support that. I do care, I am condemning all civilian deaths. I haven't heard a word from you about those Gazans besides justifying their slaughter. Children are half of Gaza's population, are they Hamas supporters and legitimate targets? Abandoning them on the front lines only to be sent down south by the IDF to be shot in the back or bombed again under the pretense that they were used as human shields. Hamas is considered a terror Organisation. Israel is considered the only democracy in the Middle East and the 18th military in the world. We would expect more accountability than blaming everything and anything on the Palestinians. If those Gazas were Israelis you wouldn't flatten Gaza like you are doing now. As for the picture, see my latest post on Linked in.
Israeli comment #3
I would not pretend to own a land that isn’t mine. You have no case. Go check Surah 5:21, 5:45-46 in the Quran and relevant references from the Bible and New Testament. May God enlighten you and your people’s way to truth, because you are now lost in complete darkness.
Palestinian comment #4
Very touching poetry with the complete Darkness thing. My religion doesn't justify the slaughter of women and children unlike what happened with the Amalekites. Does the map from 1946 show "pretending" it's our land? Let's go with your claim. What are its borders? My understanding is that Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are all occupiers. Are the people also complicit, enemies and valid targets for Israel's self-defense? I mean if you want to quote the Quran you'd have to accept all of it, otherwise do not quote it at all: 5:21 Absolutely. In another verse, it talks about causing corruption in this land upon entering it which is a prophecy being fulfilled by the genocide we see. 5:45-46 What is the point here? Skip two verses below to 5:48 "supreme authority". 21:105 Who are those righteous servants? Don't you guys claim that Islam wants world domination? So how does that work if the Quran is allegedly giving Jews the land of Israel?
Israeli comment #4
Outside of the discussion, you sound like a cool person actually. In another universe we might have even been friends.
Regarding the religious debate, remember that God doesn’t contradict himself. So, the Quran being the 3rd part of the Holy Books trilogy, can’t undermine anything that has been said before by God. So, any attempt to revoke Israel’s right to his lands in invalid. From the Bible you can infer that the exact borders of Israel changed, depending on how close was Israel to fulfilling God’s commands. One of them, being a complete hold of the land.
When we weren’t subordinated, we got punished by being sent out of our land, for 2000 years in the diaspora. For 2000 years we haven’t forgotten our land. No way we’ll start forgetting or denying our right to it now.
Palestinian comment
"So, the Quran being the 3rd part of the Holy Books trilogy, can’t undermine anything that has been said before by God." But that is what it says in 5:48. One book claims Mohammad is the messenger of God, another claims god is 3 and does not acknowledge the first (first in my list, not chronologically), and a third rejects both claims if I am not mistaken. How can the 3 be from god at the same time if they go against one another? A genuine question with no challenge intended whatsoever: can you tell me more about what some Rabbis are talking about regarding not being permitted to return to the land of Israel before the return of the Messiah?
Israeli comment #5
You raise interesting points. I might have an explanation for the God being referred to as 3 vs 1: not many know this but in Hebrew the name for God is actually in plural: Elohim, which is the plural form of Eloha, which is a God. Most chances that if you ask Hebrew speakers, they wouldn’t have thought of it.
I personally believe that a good Muslim, a good Christian and a good Jew are the same person. The Rabbis, which in itself is an institution that was developed in the diaspora due to lack of the Cohanims (people of the Temple), said that the whole of Torah can be summed up in one sentence: Love your fellow man as much as you love yourself.
If you truly read the scripts of the 3 Holy Books, you can see it is the fine line connecting all of them
Palestinian comment #5
I find that difficult to believe, but I will keep that in mind and look into it. 🤔
Israeli comment #6
From one side of the conflict to another- I wish you all the best
Palestinian comment #6
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